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ErikaD.D
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It's related to piracy, is anyone know that last week non-legal manga sites C@tM@nga and scanlation Bl@ckC@t are both shut down due to DMCA or C&D. I wonder are both these, where I mentioned related to it or just coincidence?
Since C@tM@nga is gone, just shows that reading mangas on online illegaly are become more harder than before yet legal manga sites still not common and some of them are inaccessible, a la English languaged Shonen Jump website in my country. MangaPlus exist but it don't have subcription service for missing chapters. How am I supposed to re-read some WSJ mangas legally that non-legal sites are no longer uploading WSJ mangas, Shonen Jump website is region locked and M+ has only 3 first&last chapters? Shueisha is hypocrite. |
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Replica_Rabbit
 Posts: 354 Location: Portland |
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By buying them? I think it is the pirate site's fault for releasing Shonen Jump titles earlier, before the official release. It is not surprising Shueisha would try to take down those sites when they notice a chapter of one of their popular series is trending 3 days before the official release. Lastly, I don't know why you couldn't use a VPN |
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fuuma_monou
 Posts: 1820 Location: Quezon City, Philippines |
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Beggars can't be choosers. No legal, free-of-charge option in your country/territory? Tough titties.
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myskaros
 Posts: 600 Location: J-Novel Club |
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You don't need manga to survive; you can choose not to steal. |
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RockSplash
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After reading the article, I realize why they shut this down. This was a Japanese only site. Literally no reason to pirate manga in Japan. Its a California case because they thought to use a foreign bank account. Anyway, regardless of what you think of this, these sites are like the hydra. Cut one down, 3 more sprout up.
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Alan45
 Village Elder Posts: 9860 Location: Virginia |
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RockSplash wrote:
They don't have to destroy all of them. If they just get the big obvious ones it makes it harder for them to do business and harder for the public to find. Once they get obscure and small enough they cease to be a problem. |
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zrdb
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Can't say as I care-I don't read manga. Guess some people are gonna have to find alternatives but that shouldn't be difficult at all.
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noblesse oblige
 Posts: 280 Location: Florida |
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Some people use a virtual private network to make their internet traffic requests seem like they are coming from another country. Sort of a gray area when it comes to legality, but at least in that situation they are paying for the manga they are reading, rather than giving ad revenue to pirates. |
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a_Bear_in_Bearcave
Posts: 514 Location: Poland |
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If there's no monetary loss for the other person, it's not stealing in any sense. And if there's no legal option to acquire something, obviously people will attempt acquire it in not-so-legal way, as long as it's easy. No one has any reason to care for laws that doesn't make sense to them, whether it's jaywalking through the street with no crossing anywhere close, or reading manga that isn't available to them.
Is it actually legal option? I thought most of those services have "If we detect you're using VPN, we'll delete your account and you'll lose all you've bought" stuff in EULA. |
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Shaddy_Pl
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Well, technically, VPN is illegal way too. Only difference is that you pay. I wouldn't mind, if there was legal way to read series in my country. We have publisher, but their speed of release is sometimes slow (for ex. One Piece - In Japan - 101 volumes. In my country - 71) So reading only legal way, I would be in year 2013 with that title. Now tell me. If I read manga online from illegal sites, and then buy official release, when it comes to my country, is it good or bad? I read illegal, to be up to date with story, and buy physical copy, to support official release. |
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Deacon Blues
Posts: 391 Location: Albuquerque, NM |
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Seems needlessly bloated, to be honest. I love how they're assuming that every single visit translates to a potential sale. |
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Kadmos1
 Posts: 13567 Location: In Phoenix but has an 85308 ZIP |
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I do freq. scanlation sites but I also do support official sites like Crunchyroll and Funimation. Many of us are very aware that piracy is immoral, unethical, and illegal. However, we tend not to just not care. |
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Replica_Rabbit
Posts: 354 Location: Portland |
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I don't have a problem with people reading manga illegally if it is not available. I have a problem when people try to justify and defend pirate sites. It's annoying when someone just blames Shueisha and gives the pirate sites a pass and acts like it is the end of the world when one of them goes down. Another one will pop up, Shueisha can't really take them all down. Why get angry? |
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a_Bear_in_Bearcave
Posts: 514 Location: Poland |
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Ha, I wish I could support Funimation. They don't want my filthy foreigner money.
As for releasing before official release, I agree, this is asking to be hit with book of law, it's clear and obvious damage to publisher's interest. There was a case too, when one pirate site made smartphone app, so people looking for manga app could end up in their app instead of official. They went down hard after getting hit with lawsuit. |
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Deacon Blues
Posts: 391 Location: Albuquerque, NM |
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Piracy is still piracy no matter how you look at it. Even if you go back and buy the official release, the damage is, arguably, already done. I mean, you wouldn't rob a bank, take the money and run only to give it back a month later, would you? An extreme example, I know, but it still illustrates the point. I'm not going to act like I'm a patron saint since I'm a scanlator, but I do support the artist every step of the way I can (their serialization and compilation volumes) since the chance of a license on the material doesn't stand a snowball chance in hell anyway. |
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