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Triblade1992
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OKAY, why is it so hard to say that Motomu Toriyama directed Final Fantasy X? It's in the PS2 manual that he got top billing, it's in the credits with him having top billing and Yoshinori Kitase stated in the FF10 Ultimania guide that Motomu Toriyama is the majority control director of Final Fantasy X? PLEASE stop ignoring and going with the whole "His first directed FF game is X-2" narrative. |
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jellybeanbandit
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Maybe the remake wont be so bad afterall.
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thezentris
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This just in we get a co-director of FFX-2 (Terrible take on X outside of 100% ending)
And the FF13 games were all garbage tier. So RIP FF7, I can't wait for the same trash in those games to be piling up now. |
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BadNewsBlues
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Terrible take? It was a sequel secondly the only problems with X2 was Blitzball being turned into a non playable simulation and third that 100% ending was novel provided you knew the exact steps to get it.
......Did you ever stop to think before you made your account to rail against this alleged indignity that the writer simply made an oversight? Don't know what makes you think the writer has an issue with them or whatever. |
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residentgrigo
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FF VII is my favorite game of all time but these remakes had me worried for... it´s not important how long. Almost nothing that they showed looks all that interesting, SE is one of the most mismanaged companies in the history of gaming, etc. but Motomu Toiletyama.
Square F###ing Enix. Just stop. You need an intervention. Cue an endless cue of Jim Sterling videos on them... FFX was directed by produced by Yoshinori Kitase. Toriyama was an "Event director, scenario writer" on that game. He still has to direct even 1 fully good game. I´ll admit that Final Fantasy XIII-2 plays fairly well but dat plot. He further never managed to write a script that could even be called mediocre (The 3rd Birthday maybe his worst story yet) and he is doing "scenario design" on FF VII. Yikes. |
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PonSquared
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The remake looks amazing to me. Everything I wanted and more.
Why are you so "meh" the what they have shown? What were you expecting it to be? |
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fathomlessblue
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Isn't Motomu Toriyama the guy people point to for having inserted a bunch of otaku-flavored humour/framing into the Final Fantasy game he worked on? At the very least he was the dude who would keep talking about having his vaguely inappropriate crush on Lightning in interviews, & if he was the scenario writer on The 3rd Birthday, presumably he was responsible for turning Maeda from a sweet young man into an obsessive creep who spies on underage girls in the shower. In addition to everything else terrible about the plot & cast of that game.
I'm sure the management issues of S/E are enormous, but in the fandom I often recalled him being the public face of everything bad about that company & their output in the 2010's, and I've been pleased to see him disappear into side-projects since ARR slowly started to claw back the Final Fantasy franchise's dignity back. If he's going to have a more prominent role in future VII-Remake installments, the only thing I can be close to certain on is that we're going to get a lot more 'jokes' around Tifa's chest |
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H. Guderian
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Ambivalent. I was skeptical before and I think management meddling and similar things will play more of a role. I don't feel recent FF games are artistically free.
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meiam
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Jesus he worked on the third birthday too? How does he still have a job?! Looking at his resume, he also worked on front mission evolved and plenty of other dud. Bahamut lagoon and FFX seems to the only thing he did that were good. I mean, being even remotely related to FF13 should be more than enough to justify being fired, if that wasn't enough I guess it really is near impossible to be fired in japan. |
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Testarossah
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That's a nice choice, huh. I wasn't expecting much from this remake, since the original game isn't all that good either, but now maybe I can except a better story and characters.
I hope it can be at least half as good as Final Fantasy XIII. |
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BadNewsBlues
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While most of the stuff is just people suffering from nostalgia bias. The the big thing is with the game being split into three parts (which is ironic in and of itself). One of the others is Testuya Nomura. |
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Tripple-A
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The director of FF13? Oh boy, this could turn out pretty badly.
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AiddonValentine
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Yup, that's the guy. And if I had to guess WHY he's being put in the Remake despite spending years in exile in the mobile division, it's probably because of Kitase. Kitase spent YEARS trying to make Toriyama the next golden boy of Square and he was a complete disaster. Toriyama is the worst writer ever to come out of Square, and it really doesn't help that he's always reacted poorly to criticism (like Kitase), often blowing off genuine critique with strawman arguments and petulant behavior. He's a hack when you get down to it. The XIII series' brand became so toxic that Square renamed Agito XIII to Type Zero and Versus XIII to XV just to get away from it. Front Mission Evolved basically killed the Front Mission franchise with a nonsensical plot. And the crown jewel, 3rd Birthday, is one of the creepiest and most misogynistic games I've ever seen. It just made me feel gross and my opinion of Toriyama shifted from "Okay, he's a hack, but whatever" to "This guy is a creep and I want him GONE." Just, holy crap, the fact that Square is trying to redeem this guy or whatever shows they really haven't learned anything and they're going to keep getting hit by the same rakes over and over again. |
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Commander Cluck
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So the stuff people actually liked older Squaresoft games for and find lacking in the modern, more sterilized and homogeneous titles? Back when Final Fantasy lived up to the fantasy part of its name? I was hoping Dragon Quest's continued success and praise would spur Square Enix into going back to its otaku roots since it's about the only franchise they do that still feels Japanese, aside from the oddball Final Fantasy 14 which despite being a worldwide MMO is ironically some of the most Japanese and anime-esque writing and humor since Golden Era Square-Enix. That, and given the upcoming Trials of Mana remake, I'd like to think they're slowly going back to embracing their Japanese roots
That is such a gross mis-characterization of what actually happened with those titles it's hilarious. XV is nothing like Versus XII if you actually bother to go back and watch the original teasers and read all the info. It's a completely different game due to development hell it was in, which had nothing to do with XII apparently being "toxic". XIII had some of the best character development and writing in the franchise. But I guess XIII was such a disaster it only managed to spawn two sequels, which is something failed and hated games are known for, getting more made of them. |
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Testarossah
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Is that really the case? I tried a few Final Fantasy games and none of them were as good as XIII in that regard, yeah, but I was hoping I just choose the wrong titles to play. Writing and character development are things I value a lot more than the gameplay itself, so I am losing interest in Final Fantasy, unfortunately. Should I try FFIX? Maybe FFV? |
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