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Fronzel
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I was making Tomino/Lucas comparisons before it was cool.
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Dragkin
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This show had the makings to be good but ended up failing on the story big time. Despite Tomino saying he intended it to be a short series, I feel that a 50 episode series would have worked best to flesh out the story, work it's pacing out and flesh out all the factions and their motivations. I still enjoyed the series all the same, and I really liked the mechs designs but it will forever be one of the worst Gundam series in prettt much any medium.
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ryanvamp
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Same reviewer who gave a lot of straight A's to one of the most mediocre Gundam shows ever made in recent years both in visuals and storytelling.
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thekingsdinner
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Personally I really liked Reconguista. Yes, the story is nonsensical. I didn't fully understand what the hell was going on either, but for me, the animation, music and other visuals completely sell the show. I freaking love the way the show looks.
I do also genuinely like some of the side characters and Bellri is a likable main Gundam pilot. I'll definitely buy the Blu-ray sometime. |
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BodaciousSpacePirate
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This is the Gundam show that did so poorly that Bandai never bothered to make any 1/100 or SD scale model kits for it, right? (Obviously not an indication of quality, but it does point to a lack of confidence in the series.)
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MarshalBanana
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So is Tomino eccentric or does he just have trouble writing? He doesn't sound like a bad writer, maybe I'm wrong, more like he doesn't follow the same wavelength as everyone else.
He may have the same issue I've had before, where you write something that makes sense to you, as you're the one writing it, but you fail to understand that everyone else doesn't know what you know, and you fail to fill in all those blanks. |
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Key
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There's historical precedent for something like this, though. Accounts exist from WWI of soldiers from both sides of the trenches crossing battle lines during a Christmas lull to share holiday greetings and smokes. And then within a day or two later they were back to shooting at each other. |
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Dragkin
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The weird part here is that Tomino wrote this series at a time when there was intense discussion over the Japanese military. Basically, the series was written as a message for the leaders of Japan. However, I think he forgot most of them don't watch Gundam so I think he broke the cardinal sin of not knowing the audience. It's weird, I know, but that's how Tomino rolls. |
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Paul D. Atreides
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This was actually the first Gundam show I ever watched.
As you can imagine, it wasn't a good entry-point into the franchise and I ended up dropping it. I have since then seen the Mobile Suit Gundam - Movie Trilogy, which gave me a much better impression of the franchise as well as leaving me hungry for more (Z Gundam is up next). I still want to get back to this series and watch it all the way through someday. Even though I can't say I like it I'm very fascinated with it, which is probably due to the amazing artistry that Lauren talks about in the review. In fact, according to that interview Tomino gave after the show ended, he said that he made the show primarily because he wanted to show off his animators' talents. But they got so caught up in the visual spectacle that they forgot the story. Maybe this was a case of a director trying to evolve and make something new, but fell flat on his face instead. |
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megazero
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This is probably the only Gundam show where tension is absent, story is heading nowehere, and battles are happening without any particular reason.
Sad to say, but if this is the first Gundam show that I have watched, I will have a bad impression of Gundam. Last edited by megazero on Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:35 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Giolon
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When friends ask me what's wrong with this show, I tell them it's like listening to a story told by a 5 year old. They can tell you all sorts of things happened and roughly in what order they happened, but give you none of the details about why any of them happened.
It doesn't help that there's something like 12 factions in this show by the time it's over, which all change alliances frequently and without warning or explanation. Well, it sure was nice to look at, and I'm ashamed to say I'm considering purchasing this Blu-ray on that basis alone. |
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DuelGundam2099
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First off, the "hard to comprehend" nonsense I've seen jumbled around can be explained with pic related (minor spoilers open at your own risk): http://s21.postimg.org/d1jz7lw2f/jeeraco_xplain.png
Second is the review scoring, assuming A+ to F equals 12 to 0: 11 + 11 + 11 + 2 = 35, divided by 4 that equals 8.75, meaning the overall should have been rounded up to 9. Third: >complains about a bad plot Coming from the same place that gave Please Talk! Galko-chan an A in the story department, what are standards for proper plot reviewing these days? And that's ignoring the horrendous "we deducted points from Gundam X cause it was part of it's era" bit.
Brain Powerd, Garzey's Wing, Turn A, King Gainer, and Wings of Rean were all worse than G-Reco and came out before, Tomino lost has stride after Victory Gundam. Serious question, has Lauren watched any of Tomino's non Gundam stuff? Preferably his 70s and 80s works? Because if not I don't think someone that's only seen a small portion of someone's discography can go around proclaiming whether or not a creator "lost his edge". I nominate Mike Tool to do mecha anime reviews, he clearly has a passion for them, does his homework, and engages in such material on a regular basis. I'd nominate Theron too, but he called Cross Ange's music good and it really wasn't.
And Episode 7 is the worst of the seven movies currently due to having nowhere near the imagination and excitement, but whatever, everyone just wants to be meta these days. And yes, I am in the "give SW back to Lucas or at least let him do episode 9" crowd, JJ tries too hard to be art housy and "proper".
Statistically that is incorrect, G-Reco even at its worst makes over 7300 sales per volume which is exceptionally high for anime that airs between the midnight and morning hours; contrast to terrorist gundam whose second season will air in a few days which gets average at best sales for one of the biggest timeslots in the nation and can only barely do better than its late night brethren. {Edit}: So you go back and edit over a moderator's warning and think that will pass? Congratulations, you're back on moderation. This time for 3 months. Perhaps in that time you can learn to post civilly towards other users and without the snarky and condescending attitude that you constantly show towards people. ~ Psycho 101 Last edited by DuelGundam2099 on Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:32 pm; edited 4 times in total |
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SantaBla
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Or maybe people are too dumb / thick to understand the plot.
Fans these days have ADHD and are too used to anime spoonfeeding them every plot point, every detail, constantly. |
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fathomlessblue
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Yes, and they did an excellent job of explaining why they personally felt those were justified - hint, it's in the writing rather than the throwaway single letter grade. If you have some kind of response (other than being snotty & contrary for the sake of it), to why you disagree with the points made, then you're more than welcome to share them. Just be polite, eh. G: Reco was the first Gundam series I tried to watch to completion, thinking the new timeline would serve as a convenient entrance point into the show. I'd heard all about Tomino's directing style but never in my wildest dreams did I expect something this extreme. I made it to episode 17, at which point not even Kenichi Yoshida's character designs could hold my interest any longer. My entire experience was a haze of incomprehensible action scenes, whether in motivation or directing, & non-sequitur dialogue. Fortunately, the Build Fighters series ended up serving as a powerful remedy & motivator to check out the earlier UC instalments. Many of the same Tomino quirks are still there, but I've yet to come across anything this absurd outside of Garzey's Wing |
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fathomlessblue
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I feel it's a case of both. He definitely has a unique style of directing & can easily be considered an auteur, but he clearly has issues explaining his 'cold-logic' (which was his excuse when kinda/sorta/not really apologising for the G Reco mess) to an the audience in a way that doesn't feel antithetical to all conventional storytelling wisdom. He has a lot of ideas, but obfuscates them through weirdly non-sequitur or roundabout dialogue or just assuming people will pick up details by reading between the lines. You could say he's being challenging in separate & counter-productive ways which undermines the '2deep4u' excuses some of this apologists throw out.
Puts self on intellectual pedestal. Counterargument is name-calling. Oh irony Last edited by fathomlessblue on Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:13 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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